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quarta-feira, 21 de setembro de 2011

email Nelson Korb

Desde criança sempre me indagou de vida em outros planetas...Nos anos 70 ouvi falar de um homem em Sarandi que tinha ido a outro planeta..Mas ficou so na conversa. Em 1976, fui fazer faculdade em Cruz Alta e um dia entrando em uma livraria me deparei com o Livro de Artur....fiquei encantado, embora a história em si não fechasse bem. Assim que li o livro varias vezes...O emprestei e sumiu...Em 1982eu e mais um amigo fizemos questão em conhecer Berlet. O encontramos na rua, ele voltou para casa conosco e nos recebeu muito bem, mandou a filha dele tirar as fotos que ele estava por fazer num casorio e nos atendeu com sua simpatia respondendo nossas perguntas...Disse para ficarmos em sua casa pelo menos 2 dias para ele contar muitas coisas não escritas no LIVRO...e consegui mais um exemplar....que também desapareceu....Eu militava na Ordem Rosacruz onde ensinam a reencarnação e também era mormon seita que crê ter vida em outros planetas, mas como é uma grei baseada na Bíblia,são severamente contra a reencarnação . Eu já estava para romper com os mormons mesmo sendo alto iniciado no Templo, por que eu não posso engolir a mentira judaica de Adão e Eva e outras do Talmud, e VT. mas também não aceitava a reencarnação. Com a conversa de Berlet, que era católico, mas disse que os Akarteanos eram reencarnação, e que programavam sua reencarnação e cada novo nascimento....pois seu planeta já estava super lotado. Em 1984 após ter uma projeção astral consciente me tornei Espirita......Eu sempre quis voltar para ver Berlet, mas nunca deu ocasião. Eu era Policial Civil, fazia a faculdade e depois fiquei muito doente......Em 1988, me tornei radioamador e logo consegui contato com outro radioamador de Sarandi seu Nerceu
e falávamos muito sobre o Artur......Um dia Nerceu me disse se quiseres ver o Artur venha logo,pois está muito doente.....Nos pelo rádio o chamávamos de ACARTIANO muitas vezes nos comunicávamos em dialeto germanico so falado no Brasil, para não sermos ridicularizados pelos demais colegas, pois conversas de rádio todos que tem receptor ouvem.
Fomos e o encontramos mal , no oxigênio, ele nos recebeu com muita alegria. Fiz então uma sabatina com ele pois eu estava escrevendo um livro sobre ufologia
e queria opinião de Artur. e detalhes de sua viajem.....
Essa entrevista está em meu livro que nunca foi publicado, devido. alto preço que as editoras cobram e depois não se vende,,,,
Ali mais uma vez tratamos da questão reencarnatoria, e viajem astral
Onde o mesmo Artur falou da programação que esses seres tem, assim que morrem seu corpos logo são descartados , queimados, numa maquina e já sabem quando vão reencarnar. Ele me deu mais um livro seu autografado que como os outros desapareceu . Então não sei dizer se o fato consta no Livro ou pela conversa que tive com ele. Se VC tiver algum email das filhas de Berlet me envie para que eu possa entrar em contato com elas......estou a 200 km de distancia da casa deles.
Verei em meu livro as anotações da ultima fala quando o Acartiano já estava agonizando em seu leito de morte. Nunca desmentiu sua história.
Um fraternal abraço
Nelson Korb - py3nk msn nelsonkorb@hotmail.com

terça-feira, 30 de agosto de 2011

a planet without money

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/52332

A PLANET WITHOUT MONEY; SCIENTIST OVERTHROW ARISTOCRATS

Posted By: TONZAL [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 14-Jul-2004 07:00:35

In Response To: ET: USA WILL PUT THIS WORLD IN CHAOS & MADNESS. READ!!! (TONZAL) A PLANET WITHOUT MONEY; SCIENTIST OVERTHROW ARISTOCRATS

...After that, we went to the trees and sat down comfortably on some stools
similar to chairs that rotated. I put my hands behind my head and, thus
remained for some minutes. But in that calm, I commenced to reflect and
I saw in my mind an infinity of things that I was still unable to
explain satisfactorily. Brusquely, I raised my body and remained seated,
resolving to ask Acorc to explain some of these things that I did not
understand.

One of these was that, since I had come to Akart, I still had not seen
anybody pullout money to pay for anything. We had just eaten a meal with
nearly 1,000 people and nobody had paid anything.

With relation to us, I had some kind of explanation, since we had that
paper, which could perhaps be a form of requisition by the government;
but... the rest?

To clear up this doubt I asked:

"What kind of money do you have here?"

He raised up and sat in the same position as I, right in front of me
and said:

"Money? We have no money here on Akart."

I almost fell on my back, stool and all.

"But how?! But how do they buy things, and pay their employees?"

He gave a sigh and responded:

"Well, this is a very lengthy affair, but I will try to explain to you.
Akart was all divided up into countries and each one had their own type
of government and money. That being the case when they began to feel the
problems of overpopulation, those better off commenced to acquire every
palm of our land and thus, those who had money obtained and owned more
space than they needed to live, while those less favored by fortune were
banished to the streets. This resulted in dishonesty, robberies,
several wars, and all the rest. Why? Always because of the evils of
money. The whole planet was an inferno; a few survived and others in
greater number died of hunger, misery and pains. Then when it seemed
like all was lost, there emerged the greatest scientist of all times
here on Akart."

"And what did he do?"

"He discovered the means to take advantage of the very energy of the
Sun."

"What did that have to do with the money situation?"

"Many things. Once discovered, he and two more of his followers,
invented the arms which we still have."

"Was he rich or poor?"

"Very rich, but he spent all his fortunes on investigations and
experiments which resulted in benefits for all."

"In what manner?"

"In the following way: When he succeeded in inventing the neutralizer
(beam weapon), he told nobody of his invention, but gave adequate proof
of what he could do with such a weapon. He threatened all of the
countries, that if they could not find a common denominator for their
differences, he would use the weapon. He presented a global plan for the
salvation of the planet. Then all or almost all accepted and obeyed him.
His first step was to abolish all the frontiers, making all of Akart
only one country; the second was to level all of the cities to equal
rights and obligations. To obtain this, he had to get rid of the money,
and this automatically ended profits, speculations, robbery, usury and
many other things, proceeding from money."

"Then he must have been some kind of dictator?"

"No, he did not become directly the Government, but nevertheless gave
ideas to others who then put them into practice."

"Certainly he depended on the support of some strong country?"

"No. It is as I said. Ninety percent of the population of Akart lived in
oppression and misery, and thus they understood his ideas and supported
him. The remaining ten percent could do nothing, and finally, they
accepted also. And as the people helped to install this regime, the sane
people had the right to select their governors. They proposed that the
scientist be selected, but he would not accept, however he indicated one
son of his. That one was selected and became the first Governor of all
of Akart. Since the scientist was called the man of the Sun, thanks to
his discoveries, his son was called the Son of the Sun. From this
proceeded the tradition of calling our president the 'Son of the Sun'."

"Ah! For that reason?"

"That is it."

"I thought it was a sacred name."

"No. It is not, as you can see."

"When and for how long is the governor of Akart then selected?"

"Every three years (Akartian)." (= 5 Earth years and 6 Earth months.)

"But how can you get along without money to buy or sell the things? How
do you do it?"

"Here, nobody needs to buy or sell anything. There is enough work (for
those who are apt) that they can have all that they need or desire,
without the immoralities. Here, it is a crime for anyone to refuse to
work. We came to the conclusion, that money is the work of the evil
doings. Without it many evils are avoided."

"Are they obligated to work until after they are old?"

"No. The people work so many hours per day or night and for the hours
that are left, they can go where they like, eat or drink in any public
place, without extravagances, and do as they please. In every year there
is a period of rest; then they can travel throughout all of Akart -- and
see and do what they please, traveling by whatever means they prefer. For
this there is enough available, which is furnished by the Government.
And they have more: What one citizen has, they all have, because here
all that is produced obeys a global plan; such as homes, the ships,
dress, alimentation, etc."

"Up to what age do they have to work?

"It is like this: Until 11 years (Akartian) they have to study; from
there forward they are going to work in a profession which was approved
by the schools; They work until 36 years (Akartian) and after that
retire. Then, they can stay in one place the rest of their life, or
travel wherever they want, live in one fixed place or live in a hotel,
or various hotels, as they choose. They have all the assistance and
attention they require for the rest of their life."

"Is this law also for women?"

"Well, the women also study up till 11 years; and after that then they
may marry and care for a home, or if they do not want do that, they are
obligated to work according to their profession." ...

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segunda-feira, 11 de julho de 2011

Meier and Ptah

A PLANET WITHOUT MONEY

http://rune.galactic.to/akart.html

"and that is why the "moneypeople" here on Earth are afraid of this kind of information to come out - and do their best to frighten the common people away from "spacepeople" and their information on alternatives to the money/slave-society here.

In the year 1958 a man named Artur Berlet (picture) disappears from the city. After 11 days returns and reveals an amazing story of abduction and travel to another planet.



A genuinely transitional story was that of Arthur Berlet, whose alleged 1958 encounter surfaced in 1965. The story begins with classic abduction motifs: stunned by a beam of light, doorway amnesia, wakes up on a bed in a strange environment. Thereafter the story trails off into an exceptionally dull narrative of his adventures on the planet Acart, to where he had been abducted by an insubordinate saucer captain who wanted him to tend the biological specimens. On Acart the contrite leadership gave him a guided tour while expounding on the population explosion.

**
Just some information I came across: Wendelle Stevens also put out a book titled something like "Contact from Planet Acart". This book was about a person from earth who was picked up and taken to this planet for many days.



"...After that, we went to the trees and sat down comfortably on some stools similar to chairs that rotated. I put my hands behind my head and, thus remained for some minutes. But in that calm, I commenced to reflect and I saw in my mind an infinity of things that I was still unable to explain satisfactorily. Brusquely, I raised my body and remained seated, resolving to ask Acorc to explain some of these things that I did not understand.
One of these was that, since I had come to Akart, I still had not seen anybody pullout money to pay for anything. We had just eaten a meal with nearly 1,000 people and nobody had paid anything.
With relation to us, I had some kind of explanation, since we had that paper, which could perhaps be a form of requisition by the government; but... the rest?
To clear up this doubt I asked:
"What kind of money do you have here?"
He raised up and sat in the same position as I, right in front of me and said:
"Money? We have no money here on Akart."


I almost fell on my back, stool and all.
"But how?! But how do they buy things, and pay their employees?"
He gave a sigh and responded:
"Well, this is a very lengthy affair, but I will try to explain to you. Akart was all divided up into countries and each one had their own type of government and money. That being the case when they began to feel the problems of overpopulation, those better off commenced to acquire every palm of our land and thus, those who had money obtained and owned more space than they needed to live, while those less favored by fortune were banished to the streets. This resulted in dishonesty, robberies, several wars, and all the rest.

Why?

Always because of the evils of money. The whole planet was an inferno; a few survived and others in greater number died of hunger, misery and pains. Then when it seemed like all was lost, there emerged the greatest scientist of all times here on Akart."


"And what did he do?"
"He discovered the means to take advantage of the very energy of the Sun."
"What did that have to do with the money situation?"
"Many things. Once discovered, he and two more of his followers, invented the arms which we still have."
"Was he rich or poor?"
"Very rich, but he spent all his fortunes on investigations and experiments which resulted in benefits for all."
"In what manner?"


"In the following way: When he succeeded in inventing the neutralizer (beam weapon), he told nobody of his invention, but gave adequate proof of what he could do with such a weapon. He threatened all of the countries, that if they could not find a common denominator for their differences, he would use the weapon. He presented a global plan for the salvation of the planet. Then all or almost all accepted and obeyed him. His first step was to abolish all the frontiers, making all of Akart only one country; the second was to level all of the cities to equal rights and obligations. To obtain this, he had to get rid of the money, and this automatically ended profits, speculations, robbery, usury and many other things, proceeding from money."
"Then he must have been some kind of dictator?"


"No, he did not become directly the Government, but nevertheless gave ideas to others who then put them into practice."
"Certainly he depended on the support of some strong country?"
"No. It is as I said. Ninety percent of the population of Akart lived in oppression and misery, and thus they understood his ideas and supported him. The remaining ten percent could do nothing, and finally, they accepted also. And as the people helped to install this regime, the sane people had the right to select their governors. They proposed that the scientist be selected, but he would not accept, however he indicated one son of his. That one was selected and became the first Governor of all of Akart. Since the scientist was called the man of the Sun, thanks to his discoveries, his son was called the Son of the Sun. From this proceeded the tradition of calling our president the 'Son of the Sun'."
"Ah! For that reason?"
"That is it."
"I thought it was a sacred name."
"No. It is not, as you can see."
"When and for how long is the governor of Akart then selected?"
"Every three years (Akartian)." (= 5 Earth years and 6 Earth months.)


"But how can you get along without money to buy or sell the things? How do you do it?"
"Here, nobody needs to buy or sell anything. There is enough work (for those who are apt) that they can have all that they need or desire, without the immoralities. Here, it is a crime for anyone to refuse to work. We came to the conclusion, that money is the work of the evil doings. Without it many evils are avoided."
"Are they obligated to work until after they are old?"
"No. The people work so many hours per day or night and for the hours that are left, they can go where they like, eat or drink in any public place, without extravagances, and do as they please. In every year there is a period of rest; then they can travel throughout all of Akart -- and see and do what they please, traveling by whatever means they prefer. For this there is enough available, which is furnished by the Government. And they have more: What one citizen has, they all have, because here all that is produced obeys a global plan; such as homes, the ships, dress, alimentation, etc."


"Up to what age do they have to work?
"It is like this: Until 11 years (Akartian) they have to study; from there forward they are going to work in a profession which was approved by the schools; They work until 36 years (Akartian) and after that retire. Then, they can stay in one place the rest of their life, or travel wherever they want, live in one fixed place or live in a hotel, or various hotels, as they choose. They have all the assistance and attention they require for the rest of their life."
"Is this law also for women?"
"Well, the women also study up till 11 years; and after that then they may marry and care for a home, or if they do not want to do that, they are obligated to work according to their profession." ...
(Note: When they go on interplanetary voyages, their laws stipulate that it is a crime to bring back terrestrials on the planet they visit, back to Akart. The commander of the ship that brought the earthman, Artur, to Akart, he was demoted in rank to an operator.)
"I don’t understand how the commander of an interplanetary ship, of such high position, could pass to become an operator, because of an unfortunate such as I? "


"Yes, because our laws concerning the terrestrials is as follows: We must not touch nor kill, still less bring one from another planet back to Akart, as it your case. Here the laws are made by man, and those that disobey must pay for their disobedience. "
"I thought that a functionary of such high position would have some rights."
"No! Here we have neither highs nor lows. All are as equals, even the Son of the Sun (their governor). When he finishes his days as governor, for which he was selected by all the people, he will return to the plow the fields, if that is from where he had come. "

"What are these mines of solar steel? "

"Solar steel is a special steel whose utility, I believe, still has not been discovered on Earth. It is of that which we make our solar ships, like that in which you traveled with me, and other things as well. It has many other uses." ...


***

The Akart ETs spoke very briefly in the 1950s about the then three
factions. Today, there are four factions.
Until the 1950s prior, there were two rival factions. Emerging
later was a third faction, but the third was still sketchy.
The Akart ETs have been silent for many years now. They are still
monitoring the planet Earth. They believe that we waste too much
time fighting, and should have been at peace long ago.


-----------


THEY WILL COME AFTER OUR ATOMIC WAR TO BRING ORDER
"We are not exactly unaware that there on your Earth, there exist two or
more factions which are in conflict, and all possess atomic bombs, with
high destructive power, and they continue to make more all the time, and
of greater scale. If instead of using the nuclear energy for destructive
ends and they used it constructively, our hopes would be nullified."
"What hopes?"


"To inhabit the Earth."
"Are you saying that you intend to invade the Earth?"
"Yes, but as I have already said, not on those terms. Let me explain in
what manner. You must be aware that an atomic war on Earth is
inevitable, and, even if we wanted to instigate it, we could, since it
would only be necessary to intercept an airplane or ship of either
faction, that the one would judge that it was the other. But, we are not
going to intervene in any such manner, because we have come to the
conclusion that they would not resist for much time the curiosity to see
the foul-up that caused the situation, and, when this happens, none of
them will escape the devastation, because with only a few of those
bombs, the whole terrestrial globe will be contaminated. Once this
happens, we can peacefully take over the whole planet, because those few
who remain will be in no position to offer resistance; on the contrary,
they will welcome us."


"But what future is there when the terrestrial globe contaminated by
destruction and radioactive poison?"
"Whether it is contaminated constitutes no problem for us."
"Why not?
"Because, here we have an apparatus which neutralizes the malefic
effects of radioactive poison, transforming it into fertilizer for the
soil and other things."
"If such a war happened, how much time would you wait before going into
action?"
"We would go into action as soon as the war ended, because it would cost
us to wait, as the vegetation would all die in the zones of
conflagration."
"And if there was a victor who had not suffered either human or material
destruction?"
"There is no victor in such a war. They would attack each other
mutually; we are certain of this, because we know all the secrets of the
terrestrials, against which they know practically nothing concerning
us."


"But if I tell them what is here, and what I have seen and heard on
Akart?"
"Not tomorrow, I give you all the reason when I say that nobody is going
to want to believe you."


"What suddenly interests me is that which awakened the Son of the Sun
and the Council, when from one moment to the next, after finding danger
in my return to Earth, he asked me to make a written account of all that
I saw, heard and felt here, and to try to divulge it? Perhaps it was to
test my loyalty?"
"I can tell you that it was not for that; we are interested in a large
part of the terrestrials having knowledge of some possible narrative of
yours in this respect, and, as is to be hoped, nobody is going to
believe it at this time."
"Why not at this time?"
"Because they are only going to believe when some of these facts have
been confirmed."
"How will this benefit them and when?"


"When they come out of the war and we appear on the Earth. The few who
survive, due to your knowledgeable aid, will know something of our
system of government, our manner of life and being, and thus will not
offer us resistance, which would be useless to try."


(NOTE: The Akartians maintain a base here on Earth for some centuries
now. And ever so often they rotate their staff there. They have built a
huge space platform several miles in diameter some distance away from
their home planet. This station they use as a stop over point, to station
thousands of space ships, etc. Their spaceships travel over 311 miles
per second or over 18,660 miles per minute. This group has anti-matter beam
weapons. Earth terrestrials will not have anti-matter beam weapons
until about the year 2990 A.D. and it is this weapon they will use to
vaporize the planet Mars from the Sol System in a brutal interplanetary war.
It will be the last war the earthman fight, before he realizes peace
is the only way.)


"I would like to broaden the question on one point: Are you saying that
you are going to come as owners of the house, and not as rangers, is
that it?"
"Well, I have already said that we are not going to do anything bad to
anybody. Now, once you have done the mischief by your hands, nothing is
more logical than that we benefit you. We Akartians, by force of
circumstances, have learned to be realists. This question is comparable
with a fable that my father always told when I was a boy, which is as
follows:
"A man who had innumerable cages thought it well to place birds in
almost all of them. He had two hanging one beside the other. In these
two cages the birds were multiplying; one came to the point where there
was no more room for more, but they lived well adjusted and were each
contented with a place to sit. Thus all those that the man allowed to
hatch, also were given the means to live.

Contrary to the first, the second, had plenty of space, however they commenced to quarrel; each one
wanted the better place; the stronger lived comfortably and the weak had
to get used to the corners and be satisfied with the crumbs. The roost
there was left to the strong. Each one wanted to be better and to
control. Finally a struggle broke out, so fierce that they mutually
destroyed each other, and with them also most of the weak ones, who had
nothing to do with this. The man, on seeing this, gave access to those
of the other cage of which he moved half to the first. These went there
and reconstructed the broken nests, resuscitating some of those who had
escaped with their lives, and thus they were able to live in peace for
many years, without worrying about the problem of space, as much in one
cage as the other."


"I understand the moral, unhappily for us terrestrials, perhaps this
same thing is going to come to pass. It is somewhat similar to Earth and
Akart." I said with my head down.
After some minutes of silence between us, I asked:
"Do you, sir, not feel that you have erred in showing and explaining to
me, all this with respect to your arms and means of locomotion? Since
once I return to Earth, if I am given the time to do this in the manner
in which you have explained all, I think the government would give me
the necessary means, and I have the impression that I could come to a
conclusion."


He swallowed dryly and leaned back to respond; and then between
reprimanding and fear, he said:
"Well, in the first place, I believe you are not even thinking of doing
this; and second, the terrestrials at the moment do not have materials
to this end at their disposal. But, please, do not speak to me of
similar things anymore, because if anyone here suspected what we are
doing, perhaps you would have to live here on Akart the rest of your
days of life. I cannot say anything more, because I cannot judge their
capabilities, neither in one thing or another."
Only then was it that I saw where I had put myself with my foolish
suppositions, and I responded:
"But it is not that I judge myself capable of this. It is scarcely a
supposition."
"This I know, but you are not going to want to nuke these suppositions
known to the Son of the Sun and the Council!"
Saying this, he stopped talking, and remained with the fingers of his
hands interlaced, pensive.
----------------


Also the contactperson Billy Meier got some on this planet:

Meier: How far outside our solar system is the next inhabitated
system, and does that world's inhabitants know of our Earth?


Ptaah : The next inhabited system is around five light years away from
Earth. Different worlds in that system are inhabited by human forms of
life, who differ little from your races. In their development, they are
some years in advance of that of Earth human beings, spiritually as well
as technologically. They have already achieved space flight in primitive
form, and also do visit Earth. Because their cosmic flight capabilities
are very limited, they depend on assistance stations. Mid-way between
their world and Earth, they have constructed a space station, which you
can see far outside in space there (pointing to the viewing screen). They
need such stations because they are still unable to launch their ships
over large distances.

Also, connected to their space-flight now is severe body pain, from which
they narcotize themselves for longer journeys in the cosmos. Besides the
other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. This is
because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers
from - OVERCROWDING -, and needs huge quantities of food. For this
reason, beings from that planet, called AKART come to Earth often, to
collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their
- 23 BILLION - population. They are mostly satisfied with taking seeds of
fruits, grains, and vegetables, and also plant stocks, to set out on AKART
- to grow there.

They collect more useable nourishment's on other (less populated) worlds
which they also visit often and periodically. In them selves, these forms
are of rather peaceful character, and have had to suffer much in the last
centuries. Today they live under a dictatorship, as you would call it, by
which they have relatively better living conditions. Their great problem
is their severe overcrowding, which they could relieve by emigration, but
their technologies have not solved space transportation on sufficient
scale to be of help.

**

"The population of that human-inhabited planet, Akart, about the same size as Earth, suddenly swelled with 62 Billion refugees, who arrived on Akart as refugees from wars in their own home systems. The population of Akart went up to an unbelievable number of 126 billion. Naturally, the planet could not support such a gigantic number of people and a pestilence broke out.

In only 18 months, 124.5 billion people died. This was called the "Time of the Great Death". The planet today has a population of 1.26 Billion, about 1 % of what it was before 99% were decimated."

Meier: That is a lot. But do other creatures of that system also come to Earth, and why don’t they assist that overpopulated planet?

Ptaah: The others come there, and also to Earth, but this occurs rather seldom The reason they do not assist the overpopulated race, is that these creatures have not proceeded far enough in their development or their improvement to offer them greater technical and spiritual help. These humans are still too much caught up in the material and worldly things, and are not allowed access to greater power."

UFO Akart News

THEY WILL COME AFTER OUR ATOMIC WAR TO BRING ORDER

Posted By: TONZAL [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 20-Sep-2004 04:58:13

In Response To: A PLANET WITHOUT MONEY; SCIENTIST OVERTHROW ARISTOCRATS (TONZAL) The Akart ETs spoke very briefly in the 1950s about the then three
factions. Today, there are four factions.

Until the 1950s prior, there were two rival factions. Emerging
later was a third faction, but the third was still sketchy.

The Akart ETs have been silent for many years now. They are still
monitoring the planet Earth. They believe that we waste too much
time fighting, and should have been at peace long ago.

-----------

THEY WILL COME AFTER OUR ATOMIC WAR TO BRING ORDER

"We are not exactly unaware that there on your Earth, there exist two or
more factions which are in conflict, and all possess atomic bombs, with
high destructive power, and they continue to make more all the time, and
of greater scale. If instead of using the nuclear energy for destructive
ends and they used it constructively, our hopes would be nullified."

"What hopes?"

"To inhabit the Earth."

"Are you saying that you intend to invade the Earth?"

"Yes, but as I have already said, not on those terms. Let me explain in
what manner. You must be aware that an atomic war on Earth is
inevitable, and, even if we wanted to instigate it, we could, since it
would only be necessary to intercept an airplane or ship of either
faction, that the one would judge that it was the other. But, we are not
going to intervene in any such manner, because we have come to the
conclusion that they would not resist for much time the curiosity to see
the foul-up that caused the situation, and, when this happens, none of
them will escape the devastation, because with only a few of those
bombs, the whole terrestrial globe will be contaminated. Once this
happens, we can peacefully take over the whole planet, because those few
who remain will be in no position to offer resistance; on the contrary,
they will welcome us."

"But what future is there when the terrestrial globe contaminated by
destruction and radioactive poison?"

"Whether it is contaminated constitutes no problem for us."

"Why not?

"Because, here we have an apparatus which neutralizes the malefic
effects of radioactive poison, transforming it into fertilizer for the
soil and other things."

"If such a war happened, how much time would you wait before going into
action?"

"We would go into action as soon as the war ended, because it would cost
us to wait, as the vegetation would all die in the zones of
conflagration."

"And if there was a victor who had not suffered either human or material
destruction?"

"There is no victor in such a war. They would attack each other
mutually; we are certain of this, because we know all the secrets of the
terrestrials, against which they know practically nothing concerning
us."

"But if I tell them what is here, and what I have seen and heard on
Akart?"

"Not tomorrow, I give you all the reason when I say that nobody is going
to want to believe you."

"What suddenly interests me is that which awakened the Son of the Sun
and the Council, when from one moment to the next, after finding danger
in my return to Earth, he asked me to make a written account of all that
I saw, heard and felt here, and to try to divulge it? Perhaps it was to
test my loyalty?"

"I can tell you that it was not for that; we are interested in a large
part of the terrestrials having knowledge of some possible narrative of
yours in this respect, and, as is to be hoped, nobody is going to
believe it at this time."

"Why not at this tine?"

"Because they are only going to believe when some of these facts have
been confirmed."

"How will this benefit them and when?"

"When they come out of the war and we appear on the Earth. The few who
survive, due to your knowledgeable aid, will know something of our
system of government, our manner of life and being, and thus will not
offer us resistance, which would be useless to try."

(NOTE: The Akartians maintain a base here on Earth for some centuries
now. And ever so often they rotate their staff there. They have built a
huge space platform several miles in diameter some distance away from
their home planet. This station they use as a stop over point, to station
thousands of space ships, etc. Their spaceships travel over 311 miles
per second or over 18,660 miles per minute. This group has anti-matter beam
weapons. Earth terrestrials will not have anti-matter beam weapons
until about the year 2990 A.D. and it is this weapon they will use to
vaporize the planet Mars from the Sol System in a brutal interplanetary war.
It will be the last war the earthman fight, before he realizes peace
is the only way.)

"I would like to broaden the question on one point: Are you saying that
you are going to come as owners of the house, and not as rangers, is
that it?"

"Well, I have already said that we are not going to do anything bad to
anybody. Now, once you have done the mischief by your hands, nothing is
more logical than that we benefit you. We Akartians, by force of
circumstances, have learned to be realists. This question is comparable
with a fable that my father always told when I was a boy, which is as
follows:

"A man who had innumerable cages thought it well to place birds in
almost all of them. He had two hanging one beside the other. In these
two cages the birds were multiplying; one came to the point where there
was no more room for more, but they lived well adjusted and were each
contented with a place to sit. Thus all those that the man allowed to
hatch, also were given the means to live. Contrary to the first, the
second, had plenty of space, however they commenced to quarrel; each one
wanted the better place; the stronger lived comfortably and the weak had
to get used to the corners and be satisfied with the crumbs. The roost
there was left to the strong. Each one wanted to be better and to
control. Finally a struggle broke out, so fierce that they mutually
destroyed each other, and with them also most of the weak ones, who had
nothing to do with this. The man, on seeing this, gave access to those
of the other cage of which he moved half to the first. These went there
and reconstructed the broken nests, resuscitating some of those who had
escaped with their lives, and thus they were able to live in peace for
many years, without worrying about the problem of space, as much in one
cage as the other."

"I understand the moral, unhappily for us terrestrials, perhaps this
same thing is going to come to pass. It is somewhat similar to Earth and
Akart." I said with my head down.

After some minutes of silence between us, I asked:

"Do you, sir, not feel that you have erred in showing and explaining to
me, all this with respect to your arms and means of locomotion? Since
once I return to Earth, if I am given the time to do this in the manner
in which you have explained all, I think the government would give me
the necessary means, and I have the impression that I could come to a
conclusion."

He swallowed dryly and leaned back to respond; and then between
reprimanding and fear, he said:

"Well, in the first place, I believe you are not even thinking of doing
this; and second, the terrestrials at the moment do not have materials
to this end at their disposal. But, please, do not speak to me of
similar things anymore, because if anyone here suspected what we are
doing, perhaps you would have to live here on Akart the rest of your
days of life. I cannot say anything more, because I cannot judge their
capabilities, neither in one thing or another."

Only then was it that I saw where I had put myself with my foolish
suppositions, and I responded:

"But it is not that I judge myself capable of this. It is scarcely a
supposition."

"This I know, but you are not going to want to nuke these suppositions
known to the Son of the Sun and the Council!"

Saying this, he stopped talking, and remained with the fingers of his
hands interlaced, pensive.

----------------

U.S. OPPOSES INSPECTION AND VERIFICATION OF NUCLEAR TREATY

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28806-2004Jul30.html

"For several years the United States and other nations have been pursuing the
treaty, which would ban new production by any state of highly enriched
uranium and plutonium for weapons."

"At an arms control meeting in Geneva this week, the Bush administration told
other nations it still supported a treaty, but not verification."

exemplos de materiais TERRA - AKART

quinta-feira, 3 de fevereiro de 2011

Extraterrestre Lya

http://rune.galactic.to/lya3.html

Cybrid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojTdBiFH5gY&feature=related

You tube Acart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wasdLie-yO4

Billy Meier dimension

Hi All, Had the opportunity to specifically ask Billy this question several years ago while standing in his kitchen. I too thought that Acart was the star we see close to us. He said no, Acart was not in this dimension, and further said that "all those..." implying all ETs generally referenced by him are up there as well "in that Dimension". Confirmation of this information is located in more recent contacts where Ptaah gives a much further distance for the nearest inhabited star in our Galaxy. The feeling i get from the notes is that the Earth is the only planet in this Dimension with a species that i would call "the body of Hanok" or "body of Nokodamien" (the species name for our body). The key to understanding all this might be a dimension door of unknown origin that is actually someplace nearby (but outside our solar system) that would allow for easy access to the Plejaren Dimension.




--Mike Hoot. 02:00, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...
I remember reading about that and wondered if our technology is outdated still because 5 light years seems reachable by our satellites. That would explain why we can't find Acart. I'm sure Nasa has been sending out those probes and nothing. This is good because we don't suck, we just don't have that dimensional capability yet. I heard that the Acartians come and get some of our food to regrow on there home planet. I'm hoping they haven't learned any of our bad habits here on Earth. I guess they are more advanced because they have accomplished space travel and are spiritually ahead in terms of learning. One day maybe we will advance in our learning of the spirit and borrow some sugar from our neightbors. :)

--Mark 02:34, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Jamesm said ...
Interesting Mike, thanks. I would most highly appreciate it if you or someone else could locate the contact report that states that Akart/Acart is in another dimension and also the one that has information about the nearest inhabited planet in our dimension so that I may update this site appropriately.

--Jamesm 22:08, 26 May 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...
Plants on Earth evolved the first insect life as most plants are rooted to the Earth and can,t get around.This evolution created the mobility that plants need.Sort of the same as humans sending satellites into space and ETs coming here to borrow a cup of sugar.

--Bigfoot 19:57, 29 May 2010 (BST)

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Patm

Will the problems we will experience from the sun around 2012/2013 result in the poles shifting partially or completely? What other effects might we experience (power/communication loss)? How should we prepare?

-Thanks
PatM

The publication of information about the year 2012 (Mayan calendar) has stirred enough confusion, therefore Billy will give no additional information. Many people have a tendency to interpret more into an information than there really is.

(Note by CF: Keeping one’s eyes and mind open is all that is needed to prepare oneself.)

Stephen_moore

Hello Eduard

Thank you for the chance and your time for me to ask you another question.

I would like to go back to the first contact you had with Semjase. I quote
"32. Many faunal or even floral life forms have also reached highly advanced levels of existence.

33. So there are species that have acquired much knowledge and have freed themselves from their environment; they travel through space and also occasionally come to Earth.

34. Many of them are rather unpleasant creatures and live in a certain barbarism that frequently is nearly as bad as the terrestrials'.

35. One must be on one's guard from them because they often attack and destroy everything that gets in their way.

36. Often they have destroyed whole planets or forced their inhabitants into barbaric slavery.

37. This is one of our tasks:

38. To warn the people on Earth of these creatures.

39. Let the people know this because the time is approaching when a conflict with these degenerate human creatures becomes unavoidable.
"

In line 32 Semjase explains that many faunal or even floral life forms have also reached highly advanced levels of existence. In line 33 Samjase explains that there are species that have acquired much knowlegde - and travel through space. In line 39 Samjase mentions that these are degenerate human creatures.

My question is this: When Semjase speaks in line 33 about species is she refereing to human species or of plants/animals that have gained much knowledge and if its plants/animals how can plants/animals gain much knowledge without a brain and spirit-form like humans?

Thank you for you time

Kind regards

Stephen
My new Website address - www.ufofacts.co.cc

She refers to human species, even if there are floral and faunal life forms (seeds and bacteria etc.) which are capable of leaving a planet and float/travel to other worlds/planets.

Syn

hiya billy.

ive been having these "epiphanies". its seems like in my dream im always high up in the trees talking to other people in a peaceful environment. eventually i make way to a big tree and sit down and talk to it. whenever i talk to it everytime i come up with a realization or an epiphany.

for example lately i gained an immense amount of understanding and knowledge of love, kiss, personalities, programming methods, communication, dejavus, change in my personalities, etc...And it effects me the same morning i wake up.

i try to describe this, but i cant find the words for it. while within my consciousness it retains its full meaning and i cant share its full meaning because i cant explain it. not even close.

my question is this. is this the result of my nonstop hardwork of meditation finally beginning to pay off or delusional?

Any insight, explanations, advice would be great.

-Gerald Massey

It very much looks like the result of incorrect attempts and wishing too much. It could be that you have provoked imaginations or, as you say, epiphanies. If a person is forcing the meditation process there is danger of develping schizophrenia and delusion. Such effects as described by you are produced by the consiousness and through imagination.

Norm

Dear Billy, I was watching Steven Hawking on TV & he said that if he could get one question answered he would ask "Can something come from nothing?" How would you answer that question?

With a „No“. From nothing comes nothing.

Lepuniv

Dear Billy,

Thank you for answering my last question.

But I'm afraid there was some misunderstanding.

Unfortunately, I'm not able to say it in German yet.

In my last question, I was speaking about the spiritform.

In a lifetime, as the spirit learns, it changes (gathers knowledge).
The same applies through the successive lives: so the spiritform changes from life to life.

Though, being as the playariens are able to say for example that this spirit now lives in Germany... (Even if they no more give this kind of details)

This means that despite the changing of the spirit, there is still something unchanged in the spirit that a superior being (not an earthling) can spot.

So, what is the changing part of a spiritform and what is the unchanging part of it?

Thanks
Salome
Lepuniv

The spirit form does not learn, but cumulating everything into higher energy. The learning process happens within the consciousness. The spirit form does not change from life to life.
The Plejaren are not capable to detect special spirit forms from one life to another. They have to get the information from Arahat Athersata (via the High Council).
A spirit form can be detected because each one has its own vibration.

Sanjin

Hallo Herr Meier.

Ich habe ein paar Fragen im bezug auf die Pyramiden, die da in Bosnia und Herzegovina entdeckt waren. Nun sind die Pyramiden immer noch bedeckt mit Erdboden, aber Archäologen vermuten das diese Pyramien die ältesten sind auf der Erde.

1. Haben die Plejaren ihnen etwas darüber erzählt?
2. Wissen Sie warum die Pyramiden bedeckt sind?
3. Welche Völker haben diese erbaut?

Von rund 1000 v Chr (Jmm) bis die Römer das Land übernehmen haben, haben dort Illyrianischen Stämme gelebt. Aber die Illyrianer waren recht primitiv, so denke ich das die Pyramiden nicht von den gebaut waren. Auch waren diese viel früher erbaut.

Dankeschön!

-Sanjin


I have a few questions regarding the pyramids which were discovered in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The pyramids are still covered with soil, but archeologists suppose that these are the oldest on Earth.

1. Did the Plejaren tell you anything about them?
2. Do you know why these are covered with soil?
3. Which peoples have built these?

From around 1000 BC (BJ), the Illyrian tribes have lived there until the Romans took over. The Illyrians were quite primitive, therefore I don't think that the pyramids were built by them. The pyramids were also built much earlier.

Thank you very much! (Thanks pretty)

-Sanjin
________________________________________
36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.

Billy has seen photos of that hill and learned on TV that drillings into the ground have brought no evidence of pyramids.
Most probably it is a so-called „Laune der Natur“, i.e. natural artefacts.
Billy doesn’t know about pyramids within those hills.

Scott

Dear Billy,

There is something I have been trying to figure out for a number of years, which I haven’t been able to truly come to a conclusion on my own.

Wendelle Stevens published a book in 1987 entitled “Contact from Planet Acart”. This book supposedly involved a man (Artur Berlet) in Brazil in 1958 who was taken to this planet (Acart) for a number of days and then returned to earth. Some of the material in the book seems to coincide with information Ptaah relayed to you in Contact 35 during your great space voyage. Additionally, there was more information released about the extreme overpopulation on this planet in a conversation with Ptaah during contact 235. Also, in Guido’s Book “And Still They Fly” there is mention of Mr. Horst Fenner in Bolivia who encountered two of these visitors from the same region of space.

Some of the similarities I found in Wendelles book which also were mentioned in contact 35 were the following:

1. Collecting grains and vegetables while visiting earth.
2. Mention of overpopulation on their planet
3. They drug themselves during space flight
4. Mention of a space platform (station) during space flight
5. The spelling is very similar: Akart/Acart (possible translation inaccuracy)

In Mr. Fenner’s exchange with the visitors he spoke German to them (they used language translators) and also Mr. Berlet mentioned he spoke German to the beings from Acart. Also, Mr Fenner’s encounter took place in Bolivia and according to Mr. Berlet his initial encounter took place in Brazil, both South American Countries.

Since this book “Contact from Planet Acart” was released in 1987, I am sure the possibility exists that someone could have read the contact notes, and then fabricated this entire story. On the other hand after reading the book, it occurred to me some of things mentioned could be legitimate although possibly distorted due to translation inaccuracies. To the best of your knowledge do you know if the book is a somewhat accurate and a truthful story, or a complete hoax created to sell books? (I apologize if this question was a bit long)

Thank you again for your help.

Salome
Scott

The „Contact from Planet Acart“ case is nonsense.


Sonik_01

Hi Billy, I hope all is well with you and your health,

I would like to ask you a question regarding paranoid schizophrenia. This is an illness which I've been fighting for about 10 years now. I am in my late 20's. I developed this illness because of my involvement in the Christian faith in my late teens. It involved my fear of outside forces punishing me for "sins" I had committed. And since I had committed all these "sins" I had or have low self esteem. So I am always watchful for things in the outside world which would determine my fate, such as police watching me, or numbers I see or whatever. This backwards link to the outside world is causng me a lot of strife. I would really like to be a person that determines my own fate despite what I see in the outsde world. But it's this fear of the consequences of my actions that keeps me frozen in fear and I don't react to anything going on in my life. Like I said I would like to be a person that determines my own fate, but to get to that point in my development and overcome my fear? What is the departure point, or starting thought that I sould start out with if I were to overcome my fear? Thanks, and take care.

Sonik.

You should try to free yourself from the religious nonsense and delusion. This is really hard „work“! Note: There is no such thing as a „sin“.
The help of a non-religious psychiatrist may be helpful, but they are hard to find, depending on the country you live in.
Generally it can be said that people who were deeply religious in their actual life have great problems to free themselves from the bounds of religious thinking and feeling. Relapses are a frequent occurrence, unfortunately.


Darren

Hi Billy,

You once advised that people with Skizophrenia should not do meditation as it was unsafe for them (not sure if it was in or out of the pyramid or both?)

Should a person with Bipolar mood disorder (once termed depression) do meditation, thanks.

Actually sick persons can or could meditate, but with schizophrenia there is danger that the affected person is sliding deeper into delusion and that a problem is made bigger than it really is.

Regarding Bipolar mood disorder: Meditation can be fine if the person is in control and does not circle or drown in a problem. If the person cannot detach himself from the problem, but is concentrating and enprisoned in the problem, he shall stop a meditation process.

A normal, settled life (style) and regular work would be the best remedy and aid.
Btw: It is possible to use one’s work for meditation, as a meditative process.

Stevieo

what do you think about the system locking up humans in jail i live in nebraska and i went to jail and not find it plesent and no one wont to be there i feel its wrong i would like your answer about that

Locking people up in a jail/room for a long time is wrong. The correct way would be to install detention locations (Massnahmeerfüllungsorte), like e.g. islands or fenced in landscapes were the criminals have to work for their daily life, with their own hands and out in nature.
As a rule, criminals tend to not learn or change when imprisoned in a small cell/room for a long time.
The goal of any code of criminal procedure should be that the delinquent learns correct behaviour as well as internal and external hygiene etc. etc.

However, as long at the „detention locations“ are not installed, we need jails.

Gib_niner

Dear Billy,

In one of the books on Pleiadian/Plejaren spirituality ('Star Wisdom') there is mention of the P's putting an interfering hand into the natural development of spirit forms. ie. the following...

'When a Pleiadian woman falls in love with a less developed man from some other star system, she can easily bring him up to her high level by the use of the advanced Pleiadian science'

Further to that..

'In fact whole races of beings can be brought up to a very high level of wisdom, knowledge, and intelligence by such means without the need for each individual having to go through the different evolutionary steps'

Well essentially main question being - to engage in a practice like this - well just strikes me as cheating on Creation somehow - is there wisdom in doing such a thing in the first place? Shouldn't a spirit form always have to go through the hoops at precisely its own pace at all times? Always learning from its own mistakes as it were, in the usual normal manner, unimpeded by external forces/technology?

& After all, if it is the case that this was EVER done by them (accelerate the levels of entire races) - then what would be to stop them from doing that to us earth humans, to get us on the right track faster (lets face it, things are not looking good) - for the benefit of everyone, them included (considering that us humans are nearly at the stage of actually being able to.. destroy the entire DERN universe, apparently)

(I realise that the P's have a policy of fairly strict non-interference - but just now playing devil's advocate temporarily - just from the point of view of coming from this angle ie that there are possible double standards at play here in this particular instance on the part of the Plejaren ways of dealing with things.)

What Semjase explained was more theory than reality. If there’s a too great difference in the evolutional-vibrational level of two persons, it is not possible to artificially minimalize that „gap“.


(Note by CF: In other words: It is not feasible that a terrestrial human being can be cognitively and intellectually „lifted“ to the evolutive level of a Plejaren. There’s too much difference between both persons.
You can compare it with the following example: If a professor from the University of Zurich would meet an indigenous woman (an adult) in the heart of the Amazonas jungle and want to marry her and bring her into his circles, there would arise unsurmountable problems of understanding and mentality etc.)


Savio

Dear Billy

I have a question regarding the life of Jmmanuel.

We know Buddha begged for food to stay alive during all his 40 years preaching days.

However, we know nothing about Jmmanuel whether he did the same as Buddha during his preaching days.

My question is : In order to earn for a living, did Jmmanuel and his team have a job or did they fully depend on the supply of other people?

Salome
Savio

Jmmanuel’s task since his childhood was to learn and to teach. From time to time he did some manual labour in gardens and agriculture, but most of the time he was teaching. He did not do this for money, but of course he received goods and money from the people who attended his lectures etc.
Jmmanuel’s team or disciples respectively had to work in their learned professions. They weren’t constantly travelling, but had to go back home from time to time to earn a living.

Adysor

Hello Billy,

I was discussing with some of the forum members about the spirit form and death. And I have come to grow skeptical about it. I can't conceive anything beyond death because there is no experience after that.The self dies and all the body parts disintegrate. So why tell us about all these things since there is no way for us of knowing this. You say that this is the Truth and the true words but we won't really know for sure. You say this is the right path, but all I see is just words.

If you weren't instructed by the Plejaren(if happened) would you have ever known about this? And so, in what way will it help us if any at all? Won't your teachings and the way to achieve whatever we "need" to achieve cut off the possibility of nature to deliver unique individuals into being?
________________________________________
Adrian.

The necessary information or knowledge respectively can only be received from the Arahat Athersata level. The Plejaren are not capable to gain that knowledge.
To know or have knowledge about the processes before and after death is important for understanding the purpose and meaning of life.

Kiwiseeker

Dear Billy,
When Asael and his followers colonised the Plejaren star cluster it is probable that there were original inhabitants on the habitable planets, for example on Erra. How evolved were the original inhabitants of Erra and what sort of interaction occurred between them and the colonisers? Were these Ur-inhabitants simply assimilated or were they eliminated?
Liebe Wohl,
Charles.

Yes, there were original inhabitants on the planet Erra. They were „wild creatures“ (wilde Gestalten). If Billy remembers correctly, some were assimilated, other died out (they were not eliminated!).

Newinitiation

Dear billy

Having met many people throughout my life one pattern to the human psychology uniformly never seems to change in that when dealing with them you have to be somewhat animate and quite expressive with your emotions, especially affection.
It seems that with an introverted personality, it would be somewhat of a challenge to shore up affection for another from within and then to be able to express them appropriately for the others to understand clearly most of the time even if affection never aquates with true love.
Often times in this present day and age in any social setting, generally people like to be with those particular people who are affectionate towards them thinking that its some form of love or at least a sign that the other person likes them.
Yet I guess this would apply to all people living on this earth including me that from time to time we are forced to feign our affection for another because the occasion sometimes forces our hand or that the only way that people receive cues from body language is by seeing it, even if you don't want to there are occasions where you must to at least make the other person comfortable and at ease.
Surely there are people who exploit their social skills to get ahead in life and to make good impressions for self regarding motives and to this our politians are adept at the charm offensive but all in all it equates with deception and dishonesty.
I for one feel so inept where it concerns being expressive with my emotions as I am of the view that if I don't have any affection for another person, I prefer to suffer the deadening silence and the discomfort of it whilst receding to my inner thoughts than showing affection for another that I don't feel or have which sometimes makes things very awkard.

My question is, is the emotion of affection tied to genetic predisposition of our biological makeup linked closely with our ability for survival and propagating the human species and that as often our emotions are a window to our thoughts and the inner world, the only way that safety for the species can be maintained is if the human develops the ability to spot various dangers and that we have developed the ability to recognise the physical and emotional cues of others to respond appropriately depending on what kind they are, we would naturally avoid people that are angry, aggressive or sullen and depressed?

Real affection (which is no emotion) is an urge/striving (Streben) pre-determined by Creation and built on love and harmony.
Regarding our behaviour towards other people as described by you: This has to do with sympathy and antipathy towards another person, and both are depending on one’s attitude, thinking and feeling.

J_jansen

How can voices caused by primary telepathy be distinguished from voices caused by a psychosis or schizophrenia?

Actually what is called voices in a telepathy process are not really voices, but rather „like a voice“. It is more knowledge than spoken language. It is hard to explain.
The voices in a psychosis sound like real voices.

Konrad

Dear Billy,
What is the meaning of the rectangle at the bottom of the Peace Symbol?
Salome,
Konrad

The rectangle represents the grounding/fundamental block of peace which holds together and bears the tree of peace and life.
The black and white square represents the symbol of life and peace.
The seven „feathers“ on top are the seven consciousness forms.
The 2 x 3 „feathers“ below represent spiritual vibrations.
The two wheels represent the universe and Creation and are connected.

Marcela

Dear Billy:

I have read many questions concerning reincarnation and the evolution of the spirit form through living many material lives. I have read that the spirit form will only take to the beyond: love, peace, wisdom, knowledge, freedom, honor and one more that I can’t remember.

I don’t know if I mentioned the 7 virtues correctly either, but what I would like to know is:
When we die and go to the beyond to process what we have learned in this life, the spirit form collects only what is positive. Then, the spirit form reincarnates in a new human body, but how can the material conscience benefit from what the spirit form has taken from previous lives?

I know that we don’t remember past lives; but how does the spirit form communicates the material conscience what is love, peace, wisdom etc..?

Thank you for answering our questions and greetings to all at the SSSC.
Salome,
Marcela.

The material conciousness may have (or has) access to the information from former existences through one’s subconsciousness. The learning process happens in the physical life by the consciousness. The spirit form does not communicate.


Elreyjr

greetings Billy,

how come Gabriel had to be to be Jmmanuel's and Mohammad's biological father and not just anybody else considering it is the mission of the spirit reincarnating that matters most?

Jun

Mohammed had a terrestrial father and mother! He was not conceived by an extraterrestrial.
From all the seven true prophets, only Jmmanuel had an extraterrestrial biological father.

Faerast

hello,billy
hope you have a good health, but I have something very worry and very afraid hope you can help me, Many Thank!!
1.I'm very worry about my former life, so I very urgent want to know have any bafath member dead on earth and reincarnate on earth?
2.if they reincarnate on earth I very urgent want to know they will become who?

many thank and hope you have a good health and happy every day.

The Befaths did not die on Earth.
You don’t have to worry about your former life. There’s absolutely no reason for that because it has no effect on your present life.
If the spirit form of a former Bafath/Gizeh Intelligence would incarnate on Earth, this will be no problem to anybody, because the person will not remember his/her former existence/life.

Shaban_1190

dear billy,

thank you for answering my first question.
this question concerns meditation, i havent meditated for a long time i just started last month and on my second meditation my whole body started to tingle and the shake, since then i was able to do it at will, also two days later what is commonly known as the third eye chakra stared to tingle as well but this can last for hours even when im not meditating, lastly when i meditate my arm sometimes go up by themselves.

billy my question is what does all this mean?

im confused and scared at the same time about it i dont want to do the wrong thing.

saalome

It looks indeed like you are doing the wrong thing. Don’t do such things on will because it/this is dangerous. You can develop imaginations, even delusion!


Earthling

Hi Billy .. As there is a one spirit form that has reincarnated as the 7 prophets on planet earth; does a spirit form that enlivened a great musician like Mozart for example, also reincarnate in further times as great musicians of different eras? Or respectively, scientists, athletes, politicians, writers, actors, any vocation; do these personalities with particular vocations, often pick up those same vocations in different eras with similar success, yet using the particular (musical, artistic) expressions of their day?

No.

Smukhuti

Greetings and thanks for clarifying my last question.

My question is what is the limit of evolution of non-human life forms in our Creation, i.e. how far a conscious living being without a human spirit can evolve according to natural Creational laws for e.g. space travel, primary telepathy, spiritual telepathy, etc?

Certainly they cannot learn spiritual telepathy.
The limit is when evolution is stopping the process, or when a catastrophe occurs.

There already exist highly evolved animals on Earth, like e.g. silver wattle.

(Note by CF: Billy had a silver wattle in his office, and each time he passed that plant its twigs swiftly moved in the direction where Billy was/stood. After Billy’s severe accident the plant withered and died.)

Cpl

Hello Billy,

My question concerns the Plejaren diet -- the foods they eat. You have told us they eat fruits and vegetables and meats and these are also mentioned in the Goblet of Truth -- and thank you for G of T!

But do the Plejaren also eat grains and grain products like breads, pies, tarts, cakes etc, and if they do, do they eat a lesser amount than the fruits and vegetable and meats or more? Also do they genetically engineer fish as well as meat to eat? Presumably, if we live near the sea or rivers, as well as meat, fish are a good food to eat too.

Thank you so much for all your diligent work, writings, and publications. One day I hope to read them all.

Peace and good health be yours, Billy

Chris

Yes, they also eat grain and grain products like bread and sweets etc. And yes, they artificially grow fish just like meat.

Solar

Hello Billy
Recently i read a book "UFO contact from planet Acart" written by Artur Berlet. In the year 1958 he was abducted by Acartians and taken to overpopulated planet Acart which was not far from Eart and similar to Earth. In 1975, Ptaah also gave you similar information about planet Acart : it is only 5 light yers from eart, people are a bit more advanced than we, planet is overpopulated and Acartians often visited our planet to collect samples of plants, vegetables, fruits and grains.

My question : was Artur Berlet really abducted and visited Acart? If not, If he was lier, then how could he possibly know so much about Acart? He published his book long before Ptaah gave you information about planet Acart.

Thanks
Solar

Solar, I asked the same question, well see what Billy says-Scott

Exactly. See answer above. It’s nonsense. He has not been on that planet.

(Message edited by scott on September 27, 2009)

planet Acart


segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2010

sarandi

Seu livro Os discos voadores: da utopia à realidade, narrativa de real viagem a outro planeta, parece um remake de Num disco voador visitei outro planeta (Rossi, Antonio. São Paulo, Nova Era, 1957).
“...uma terrível tragédia pessoal que o abateu e o marcou até o fim de seus dias. Em conseqüência de uma explosão ocorrida na pedreira onde trabalhava a serviço da Prefeitura de Sarandi, Berlet teve uma das pernas amputadas, ficando impossibilitado de continuar exercendo sua profissão de tratorista. De início, como ele próprio admitiu, isso lhe trouxe sérios problemas psicológicos e financeiros. O pouco que recebia na condição de inativo, não era suficiente para sustentar condignamente a esposa e os quatro filhos (um menino e três meninas).”
Berlet, Artur. Os discos voadores: da utopia à realidade, narrativa de real viagem a outro planeta, 2a ed., Sarandi, Editora e Gráfica A Região, 1978.
Thompson, Keith. Anjos e extraterrestres: OVNIs e a imaginação mítica, Rio de Janeiro, Rocco, 1993, p. 50.

AFTER THE HYPERLEAP AKART

Ptaah - What you see there is Kartag. Go now with Semjase, she will show you the world from closer.

Over Kartag with Semjase

Meier- You have told me that the inhabitants of this world would be a bit more developed than Earth humans. But I don’t see any airplanes or similar. If they have atomic bombs, how do they deliver them?

Semjase - You err. They have flight machines but they are not like your Earth airplanes, for they are already more like beamships. They also do not drop their deadly weapons from out of their flying machines, but shoot them up in rockets, and then guide them back down onto their enemy. The rockets are similar to those you use on Earth for launching satellites, only their technologies and methods of propulsion are different from those of Earth. Their atomic missiles are very dangerous and much stronger than those you have on Earth. The time is up.

Meier - So we may go. Where do we jump to now?

Semjase - We will go to the Galaxy of Berberas, to the world of "Neber" there, in the system of "Kras".

[Notes: UFO researchers are continually turning up UFO contacts where punctuality in time and a need to adhere to a predetermined time schedule is stipulated This is mentioned in a great variety of cases taking place all over the world, and may signify a need for a certain kind of order throughout the Cosmos. The term Galaxy as used here may not be exactly as understood in the popular sense, and might even be according to a grouping of stars different from that understood by us. We are not clear on this point.]

Meier - - where is that, and what is interesting there?

Semjase - This has been in earlier times a desired objective of many races capable of space travel. There exist many planets that you would call ancient worlds enlivened by many animal forms. And some of these animals may be very big or of extraordinarily tall growth. They may surpass all standards of similar animals on other worlds. And just this fact attracted many space traveling races to those .......

Meier- Are there human beings living there also?

Semjase - There are, but not forms of life created on those worlds. On ancient worlds (such as this) human creatures do not yet exist. They rise normally at later times.

Back aboard the Greatspacer mother-ship

Meier- I still have other questions, if the time suffices. One quest-ion here concerns our Earth. I often think that, because the weather and the climate seem to be playing ....... I consider this being in connection with the atomic bombs’ explosions, that these could be the cause for that, which matter is still contested by the dear science... An I going right in this, or am I wrong in my assumptions?

Ptaah - You search very thoroughly for all reasons in a matter. Earth’s magnetism has been disturbed by the atomic explosions... in this respect, the explosions produced a weak repulsion of the Earth, influencing the rotation by nearly immeasurable value. on this means the Earth has also been forced a little out of normal orbit and now slowly searches out its new orbital course. By this this act, the Earth scientists have committed a crime against their own planet and all Earth mankind, because the forced changes by these explosions will have a far-reaching effect, of great importance, and can produce catastrophic results. Already the magnetic poles are being displaced increasingly.

Thus, today, the magnetic pole is already displaced into the Canadian Ice Sea, while also the south pole has been dislocated, and moves in the direction of South America. on the time of the third millennium, in about 1,000 years, the migration of the poles will have progressed so far, that the south pole will be in South America, while the north pole will have moved to Saudi Arabia. The calculated location of the north pole in the year 3,000 (AD) resulted in a location point between Jidda, on the Red Sea, and Mecca...

(NORDPOLEN PÅ ILMARSJ var tittelen på en avisartikkel i Jyllandsposten for 28.des.-98, der det står i undertittel : FORSKERNE VET IKKE HVORFOR DEN MAGNETISKE NORDPOL NÅ FLYTTER SEG TO METER I TIMEN. Forflyttningen har nå akselerert slik at den nå har beveget seg mer på 4 år enn bevegelsene mellom 1831 og 1904. Avisartikkelen ref. også en mulig magnetisk polvending.)

A much greater danger is presented by the release, in those explosions, of elementary radiations, which still present great riddles to Earth scientists, because they have not conceived their sort of form. Three main factors of Earth life are influenced by the release of these elementary radiations, and are injured... The catastrophic effect after an atomic explosion the size of the Hiroshima bomb lasts for several centuries, and negatively influences all processes of life preservation. The pure atmospheric stratums of the Earth are influence in a quite catastrophic manner by the release of these elementary radiations, which change electrical energies in great magnitude.

This happens in very high frequency ranges, which still are unknown Earth sciences. These energies do .. deal with the known to you usual electrical energy, but of an electrical radiation energy, which is near the ultra-violet spectrum. This radiation energy mingles itself with the oxygen in the air and generates huge quantities of Ozone. This ozone value increases 34 fold a short time after an explosion. These dangerous concentrations destroy in wide surroundings, all micro-organisms of wide variety, which are of critical importance for the preservation of Earth life. Then a short time after the explosion the ozone values decrease drastically to very low levels. Certain elementary effects penetrate all matter and endure for hundreds years, during which time they always and continually kill all micro-organisms which come near them. One factor in relation to the ozone is this lethal destruction.

A further important factor is the effect on the ozone belt which surrounds the Earth and protects it from the ultra-violet radiations from the Sun. Those gasses are injured in several ways and can no more absorb the ultra-violet rays...

Meier- Semjase has already spoken of that in relation to industrial gasses. But one thing is not clear to me yet. Natural flashes of the atmospheric lightning also produces ozone. Why does this not destroy the micro-organisms?

Ptaah - Nature works exactly according to her law. The industrial ozone is generated by different factors than lightning. The lightning cleans while the other pollutes. The healthy ozone belt provided a nature protection for Earth creatures from the strong ultraviolet radiation of the Sun. Direct irradiation of living creatures by this radiation and further similar radiations from other parts of the universe, would inevitably evoke death for all forms..... Nature herself always generates just as much ozone as necessary to guarantee life...

Meier- what about the atomic radiations, which from my reckonings must surround the Earth at very great heights?

Ptaah - Your reckonings are nearly right, but it does not deal with the actual radiation. As I said, quite special elementary radiations are generated in the explosion. These reach great height and spread them- selves around your globe, influencing the different stratums. In your denominations these stratums are very differently named, as for example, the menaced stratum which you call the "Van-Allen Belt". This belt consists especially of caught by the Earth magnetic field electrons and protons, which have a life- important function for Earths existence. About this I am not yet allowed to give you more information, because from the explanations your scientists could gather much knowledge for their researches... which they could not master.

Meier- So nothing can be done about this. With the Van-Allen Belt I can imagine nothing, as little also can I elaborate of the matter with the electrons and protons, but all the same, I am interested in how this belt is structured and built. I mean what movement does it have?

Ptaah - The Belt exists at a height of 1,000 kilometers average. The charged particles are in constant movement, and that on spiral courses from pole to pole....

Meier- So far I understand, but everything else is to me a so-called "Bohemian village". This unfortunately is physics, and of that I understand just about as much as our technicians and scientists know about your technologies, which is: Nothing!


Ptaah - That is not of great importance to you, for the insides of that existing spiral values are decisively greater and of more important meaning...

[Meier was given comparative values for the ozone fluctuation after an atomic air explosion. The ETs said that a normal ratio under Earth conditions is 500,000 parts of air to one part ozone. After an atomic explosion the ozone immediately increases by 34 values to 28 parts ozone. Shortly after this peak concentration, the ozone level rapidly drops to an extremely low level which results in ozone holes in the ionosphere which takes hundreds of years to rebalance normally.]

Meier- You may be right. If you allow, I want to ask you about some matters respecting contacts. How many contactees exist in the world today.....

Ptaah - The exact number of real contactees on Earth is presently 17,422 (1975). They are scattered over all your states and lands. Of that number only a few percent come to public attention. Many of them are working according to our advice (ETs collectively) at different labors and tasks,... In different cases such persons are also having contacts with us without being informed that we do not belong to Earth... Of all this 17,422 contactees (the number increases continuously) only a few hundred are known publicly.....

And then came one of those truly remarkable occurrences that have developed so often in this case. Meier asked:

Meier - ... How far outside our solar system is the next inhabited system, and does that world’s inhabitants know of our Earth?

The answer was astounding. (See note down.)

Ptaah - The next inhabited system is around five light years away from Earth. Different worlds in that system are inhabited by human forms of life, who differ little from your races. In their development, they are some years in advance of that of Earth human beings, spiritually as well as technologically. They have already achieved space flight in primitive form, and also do visit Earth. Because their cosmic flight capabilities are very limited, they depend on assistance stations. Mid-way between their world and Earth, they have constructed a space station, which you can see far outside in space there (pointing to the viewing screen). They need such stations because they are still unable to launch their ships over large distances.

Also, connected to their space-flight now is severe body pain, from which they narcotize them- selves for longer journeys in the cosmos. Besides the other races of these worlds, this one race comes often to Earth. This is because their homeworld, which is no greater than Earth herself, suffers from overcrowding, and needs huge quantities of food. For this reason, beings from that planet, called AKART come to Earth often, to collect there plants, vegetables, fruits and grains, to nourish their 23 billion population. They are mostly satisfied with taking seeds of fruits, grains, and vegetables, and also plant stocks, to set out on AKART - to grow there.

They collect more useable nourishment’s on other (less populated) worlds which they also visit often and periodically. In themselves, these forms are of rather peaceful character, and have had to suffer much in the last centuries. Today they live under a dictatorship, as you would call it, by which they have relatively better living conditions. Their great problem is their severe overcrowding, which they could relieve by emigration, but their technologies have not solved space transportation on sufficient scale to be of help.

[Note: Remarkably, when we were working on the big book, UFO ABDUCTION AT MIRASSOL with Dr. Walter K. Buhler down in Brazil, we discovered that he had investigated a UFO abduction case in Sarandi, in southern Brazil, where Artur Berlet, the abductee, was taken to a super-populated planet those ETs called ACART.



In German the same phonetics would be spelled AKART. We obtained permission to translate that story of Berlet’s 8 day stay on that planet in a book we have titled UFO CONTACT FROM PLANET ACART. All the indications are that that super-populated planet is a very near neighbor of our own sun. A very remarkable coincidence indeed.]

Meier- That is a lot. But do other creatures of that system also come to Earth, and why don’t they assist that overpopulated planet?

Ptaah - The others come there, and also to Earth, but this occurs rather seldom The reason they do not assist the overpopulated race, is that these creatures have not proceeded far enough in their development or their improvement to offer them greater technical and spiritual help. These humans are still too much caught up in the material and worldly things, and are not allowed access to greater power.

Meier- I see. Again the law of evolution... oh yes, I still have one more question: How do you see the matter of your (public) appearance on Earth; when will you land officially and present yourselves to the people of Earth?

Ptaah - This is not provided for still a very long time, as well with others too. On the contrary, nearly all our extraterrestrials will retire from your planet, if certain circumstances come up. This will be, when an until now unknown to us human race from the cosmos will start to visit Earth. Our reckoning in probability indicate this occurring before the year 2,000, or a short time before, if unanticipated factors before then do not put this enterprise in question. If these negative factors do not develop, then earthmen will, in this coming time, around 2,000, first officially meet with human beings from other worlds .......

But no danger from these human-like forms will menace (true) you, because they will be peaceful and harmless. Their culture and their spiritual estate will be very much superior to your own, and so they will not just land on Earth unexpected. They will announce themselves to you first by radio and television, and prepare Earth men for their arrival, and will then land with one of their egg-shaped ships, which will be used by 8 to 12 other forms of life...

Meier- This is very interesting; but where will they land?

Ptaah - It will assuredly be in America.

Meier- Always this America, why so?

Ptaah - That is the way it is, because they have the best communication means. The population of that country is more resilient (fleksible) in connection with the clearing up of information about extraterrestrial forms of life and their existence, and may be more prepared to overcome too large a panic at the first official meetings.

Meier- But surely there are other possibilities besides America, are there not?

Ptaah - Surely, there are, but I only explain to you what our probability calculations have shown. It will be of revolutionary importance, if this landing can be successfully performed, which is still really dependent on the negative factors which could develop. In any case a plan is not fixed, whether the occurrences will happen this way, be-cause I do not take this information from a view into the future, but from probability calculations.

Meier - So this is not clearly fixed? can you tell me from where these human beings will come?

Ptaah - I am not allowed to give information officially. It is connected to the development of the forms of life there on Earth.

Meier - - I understand...

With this thirty-fifth contact we have come full circle back to the earliest statements by Semjase with reference to the coarse particle damage to our ionosphere by the clorofluorcarbons and brom-gasses, and her urging of Meier to call this to the attention of the world scientists before it was too late. (see in advance in the text before).


Now she has explained the even greater damage to our ionosphere by the fine particle forces released in every atomic fission/fusion reaction, including the underground atomic tests, and even atomic power plant normal operations. This is exactly what other extraterrestrial Pleiadian UFOnauts told their witness in St. Cloud, Minnesota, using a slightly different phrasing. (see in advance in the text before).

Eduard Meier was given this information in 1976, and I have had copies of these contact notes in my possession since 1977. The witness in St. Cloud was given his similar information earlier, but was only allowed to recall it in 1985 when he was re-awakened to his on contacts. The witness in Minnesota did not release anything on this until 1986, and then it was before he knew anything about the Meier contacts in Switzerland.

It seems we had been warned in plenty of time to avoid the disaster we have created for ourselves, but we have persistently refused to heed the warnings -- until it may now be too late for us all.

Where have our great experts been all this time???